Iron Claw Goblin Stone Thrower – Fear the Gaze!

Three weeks ago, I put up a post asking what people’s opinions were on how I should rebase this stone thrower, originally painted a hell of a long time ago. Feedback both here and on Dakka was overwhelmingly in favour of round, (as well as my own preference) and so that’s what I did. Unusually in some ways for me, I’ve actually got a follow-up with the finished goods – in no small part due to the “get this stuff finished and outta here” kick I’ve been on lately.

Iron Claw Stone Thrower – Fear the gaze!

Something I never bothered with back in the day was to paint or even glue on the shields on the front. Something I rectified this time. It took awhile to figure out what to paint on them, which accounted for at least a week of the painting time – in the end I went for “realistic” Red Eyes, given that they can work well enough for either Warhammery goblinoids or the vassals of the Dark Lord Sauron. They also have a suitably “old-school” feel to tie in with the Warhammer Fantasy Battle Third Edition feel of the model – and really create an entirely new, really strong focal point for the model, as we naturally look people and “things” in the eyes. I toned down the original Goblin Face masthead slightly by going over the bright red-orange “sideburns” I’d painted originally with some copper/bronze, though I left the rest of it in the green it was originally painted in, just adding some darkness at the base of the horns.

Iron Claw Stone Thrower – rear view.

I also toned down some of the other stuff, like the blue padding on the crossbar, and brightened up the brass metal areas a little as well. I left the bright goblin-face filigree and decoration untouched. As per some of the suggestions, I added some ammo to the base, and some static grass and tufts to make it into a slight mini-diorama – and also left some spaces for crew – though as you can see, the Orcs you see here don’t entirely fit on the base. I used a spare Mierce base I had sitting around since it was more or less the right size and had some kind of direction/facing markings on it, to help mark out the 90 degree front firing arc for KoW.

Oldhammer Orcs crew the Iron Claw Stone Thrower

Some of these Orc crewmen were in semi-painted limbo for years until 2014 when they got finished, others were originally painted over a decade ago. They’ll work as stand-ins for now, since I think I threw away the original Bob Olley goblin crewmen.

“I fink dey’re over dere?” Oldhammer Orcs load Bob Olley’s Stone Thrower

Not dat way, you idiots.. dis way!

Ultimately, I’m very happy with the way this one turned out. It’s the best kind of update, really. Taking a model that I had considered an old piece of junk that I pretty much disliked, and turning it into something that I actually actively like. The last major example of this was Golfag’s Ogres, who had a similar kind of update last year.

 

 

From the Painting Desk #8 – How should I base this Stone Thrower?

Another model in my “Clean up this bloody messy desk and shelf by finishing stuff” series – This Bob Olley-sculpted Iron Claw Stone thrower was first painted by myself way back in the dark ages of the late 1980’s, not too long after its release in 1988. The goblin crew have been lost to the ages due to my general dislike of Bob’s sculpting style (aside from Ogres and Ogryns), but the war machine remained, albeit somewhat grudgingly.

Bob Olley’s Iron Claw Goblin Stone Thrower

Now it’s time for the resurrection. I’ll be adding this to my Kings of War Orc and/or Goblin force (they’re separate armies in KoW, and only Goblins have much in the way of war machines) when I get around to painting more of my old-school models. In the meantime it can fit in with whoever else is on the table with appropriate crew, perhaps as war booty.

As regular readers know, I’ve been rebasing my old WHFB models to have 25mm round bases for KoW and other games, and because I generally prefer them. The exceptions being larger monsters like Ogres – though I’ve continued to give War Machines round bases. After some looking around at options, I’m still not sure what to do with this one. While it fits on a 60mm round, it’s clearly much too small. My next options are the 80mm round, and the 50x75mm square (rectangle) – and I’m really not sure which to go for.

Option A: 50x75mm rectangle

Option A: 50x75mm rectangle

With that in mind, here are a couple of pictures. Please vote or comment to help me decide. The rectangular base makes it more of a discrete piece, while the round base would allow some crew to be placed on the edges of the base (on their own bases).

Option B: 80mm Round

 

Option B: 80mm Round

 

I’ll leave this up for a few days and make a decision later next week. Just a note, even if 100% of the vote is one way, I absolutely can be swayed by a well-argued point the other way. Compatibility with WHFB is something I don’t give two hoots about, though! Once I decide, I’ll do any touch ups/cover ups or repaints I think the model needs, base it, and then post again with the completed renovation! The good news is that it shouldn’t take long either way. 🙂

 

Update! I got it finished!

Bob Olley’s Rogue Trader-era Ogryn Sergeant

The figure I’m showcasing today was painted quite some time ago, and has only been rebased in recent times – so not quite enough work for me top count him as part of my finished figures for this year.

It’s Bob Olley’s Ogryn Sergeant, which to me is the truly Archetypical Ogryn. Not the first Ogryn model, mind you – that particular honour goes to Jes Goodwin’s effort of 1988. Regardless, and despite my own huge preference for Jes’ work over Bob’s, Bob’s Ogryn here remains the most defining figure of the range ever sculpted – and never bettered or even equalled in my opinion.

Oldhammer Ogryn Rogue Trader

Bob Olley’s Ogryn Sergeant

Oldhammer Ogryn Rogue Trader

Bob Olley’s Ogryn Sergeant

Oldhammer Ogryn Rogue Trader

Bob Olley’s Ogryn Sergeant

Oldhammer Ogryn Rogue Trader

Bob Olley’s Ogryn Sergeant

 

Oldhammer Ogryn Rogue Trader

Bob Olley’s Ogryn Sergeant

I originally painted this model back in early 1989, not long after it’s release. It got stripped down and repainted in the early noughties, this time with Auscam fatigue pants to match my Imperial Guard Regiment (who I need to update and photograph sometime as well) and a Māori-style arm tattoo, following my repeated travels to New Zealand.

I blame this figure for starting my long love affair with Citadel’s (and others’) Ogres. I just wish Bob’s later Ogryn efforts (for Citadel, and even for Maxmini) lived up to this figure’s quality, but alas – nothing yet. Perhaps we’ll get lucky one day and Bob will sculpt some more fantasy or Space Ogres to compliment his range of Scrunts (not-Squats)?

 

 

 

Classic Citadel Ogres for Kings of War – Unit 2 – Olley’s Ogres

Here’s the latest update on the Ogre Army Challenge. Another unit of restored Old-school Citadel Ogre Warriors. This time, the unit comes from Bob Olley.

By the way, Bob currently has a Kickstarter up for his range of “Scrunts” – Victorian and Steampunk Dwarves. Not to be confused with Squats. Only 14 days left!

I don’t have a whole slew of interesting angles for these three. Mostly because the close-ups I took didn’t turn out. I might re-take some and slip them into the post later on. Maybe.

Oldhammer Ogre, Ogryn

Old-School Ogre by Bob Olley, circa 1989.

Oldhammer Ogre, Ogryn

Bob Olley Ogre – rear view

This guy always reminded me of my Dad, from back when I painted him, and still to this day he reminds me of my father at that time. A bit of the face, the Calabrese complexion, the physique and even the brains(!) This figure is based on the original Olley-sculpted Ogryn Sergeant. (Not the original RT Ogryn, though!)

Oldhammer Ogre, Ogryn

Another of Bob Olley’s Citadel Ogres from 1989.

Oldhammer Ogre, Ogryn

Rear view of the second Bob Olley Ogre

Another of Olley’s Ogres. This one, amusingly enough always reminded me of my friend’s father who had been – amongst other things – a boxer back in the old country, and the bald noggin and complexion always helped that particular comparison. If I were to paint this guy today, he’d be covered in tattoos. Still – my rule for these guys is pretty much: New bases and “restoration” – so touchups over chips, dull metal and godawful colour choices only rather than repaints. I’m keeping an eye on eBay for another, though…

Oldhammer Ogre, Ogryn

The third of my trio of Bob Olley’s old-school Ogres

Oldhammer Ogre, Ogryn

Rear view of Olley Ogre #3

The third of this batch of Olley Ogres. The blue straps are a bit bright, but they’re not overwhelming enough to need to be repainted. IRL they’re not quite so garish.

 

Oldhammer Ogre, Ogryn

Unit shot of Olley’s Ogres

Oldhammer Ogre, Ogryn

And the back-shot!

A couple of shots of the newly restored unit. I’ll do an army-in-progress shot when I put the next finished unit up.

Oldhammer Ogre, Ogryn

Coming soon: More Jes Goodwin Goodness…

And a preview of things to come.. started in the 1990’s – (to be) finished in the 2010’s…(?)

 

Ogre Index:

Jes Goodwin Classic Citadel Ogres #1

Bob Olley’s Classic Citadel Ogres

Golfag’s Ogre Mercenaries

Mantic’s Ogre Shooters: Units 1 and 2.  And Based.

Mantic Ogre WIP 1 (and army concepts/some of the other ogres pre-touchup and rebasing)

Mantic Ogre WIP 2